Broadford and East Clare emigrants to Australia

One of my major non-family interests is searching the Australian immigration records for people from Broadford, County Clare (Parish of Kilseily) and also from East Clare generally. I’ve defined this area as that roughly east of Ennis and belonging to the Tulla Upper and Tulla Lower Unions. Since many families sent people to both Australia and the USA, I’ve got an interest in the US, though rather more diluted.

I started this research primarily because I couldn’t find the immigration records for my ancestor, Mary O’Brien and her sister Bridget O’Brien who I estimate arrived in Australia circa 1855. They probably both came to Moreton Bay, then in New South Wales. The evidence for this is that Mary married in Ipswich, Qld in 1857. Also when sister Bridget o’Brien Widdup died in the Riverina area of NSW (Urana) her death certificate stated that she had spent one year in Queensland. Oral history tells that they came under employment with a sailing captain and that Mary worked initially in Brisbane.

In the post-Famine years migration from Clare was extensive and Australia with its assisted migration scheme was attractive, possibly more so to those who were accustomed to a rural lifestyle. However while Clare people made up a huge slice of Irish immigrants to Australia, the flow here was a drop in the ocean compared to those heading west to the US and Canada.

With the commencement of the American Civil War, America became a less attractive option and with another depression and food shortages taking effect, Australia became the beneficiary of a major inflow of mainly young Irish men and women. The parish priest of Kilseily parish , Fr John Burke, (based in Broadford) was instrumental in assisting many young emigrants to complete the processes required to come to Australia. As the American Civil War came to an end, the emigration flow to Australia once again diminished. However just as many Australians can lay claim to a little bit of Irish in their family tree, many of these came from County Clare.

I am interested in hearing from anyone who knows their ancestors came to Australia from East Clare, and in particular from those who came from Broadford and its surrounding townlands.

A fabulous site for people with Clare ancestry is the Clare Library site (genealogy and history pages). The indexing is reliable, its free and it has a diversity of information not readily available elsewhere. This library and the local history centre are among my Top Ten family history heroes. Check it out, it’s great! http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/genealog.htm

If you’re lucky enough to visit Clare for family history research make sure you visit the Clare County Library and Archives. But remember to book first if you want to use the Archive resources.

97 thoughts on “Broadford and East Clare emigrants to Australia

  1. I came across your blog whilst researching the ship ‘Peru’. My great great grandparents came from Germany (maybe Baden) on that ship arriving Syd. 23.05.55. Family members have had no success in finding info on Rodolph Orth – story goes that he died from snake bite on Darling Downs in ’56. Can u please suggest where we can go in Germany to find out more about him. His wife soon married William Callaghan who emigrated on ‘James Pattison’ in 1835 from County Cork. This and next gen. were connected (inside and out) with Jimbour Station.
    cheers lesley

    • hi Lesley

      Thanks for your post. I have had a quick look at the Peru records which show that the Orth family came from the Bavarian village of Unteraltenbuch which is not terribly far from both Dorfprozelten and the Baden-Bavarian boundary. Rodolph’s parents are shown as Franz and Elizabeth (both dead) and his wife, Helena’s parents were Peter & Maria Schreck (father dead, mother alive in Unteraltenbuch).They had three sons with them, the youngest being Franz who died on the voyage. As per one of my other replies today, the shipping records available on microfilm are critical to finding out more about your ancestors. Although Rodolf was theoretically to be employed by H G Douglas this appears not to have happened if they wound up in Queensland quite quickly after their arrival.

      A warning note on the maiden surnames of the women on these German ships: I some cases the women obviously reported their names in the traditional way and so the name recorded as the maiden surname is actually the woman’s mother’s maiden name. It is worth keeping this in mind as I have a couple of ins
      tances of this among the Dorfprozelten immigrants. However given she is recorded as Shriek on her son Peter’s birth register, then it is presumably correct.

      I’ve looked up various sources I have here and can find no reference to Rodolph’s death. There are a number of possibilities: 1. he wasn’t identified at the time 2. his death never made it onto the registers 3. he didn’t die but went AWOL etc etc. I have instances of all these in families I’ve researched. It wasn’t unknown for an inquest to be held but the death not to be registered. Despite over 20 years searching I’ve still not found one of my ancestor’s deaths anywhere in Australia -he may have gone elsewhere but it’s all a mystery.

      You will strike problems searching for “Orth” among the online newspapers as it throws up “north” for example. You may need to go back to the old-fashioned method and see if you can read a copy of the Moreton Bay Courier of the time to see if there’s a story about his death…more common than you might think. I would tend to think it likely that he died closer to Helena’s second marriage as many of the Germans who lost spouses remarried quite quickly sometimes within a few months and she did have small children to support. On the other hand, the birth of their son Peter in 1856 in the Warwick district, and no further children, may add some weight to the timeline.

      Hmm another interesting anomaly: the NSW BDM index search shows the Callaghan-Orth marriage as 1857 while the Qld indexes show it as 1859. If it were me, I’d buy both certificates to compare them. It would also be worth contacting the Toowoomba Catholic Diocese to see what information they can provide you with -you will need to give them a donation for the service (a similar amount to the certificate is fair). I have found their records are very useful. They may also be able to tell you what is on Peter’s baptism (these families were very committed about church rites wherever possible).

      Given your interest in the Darling Downs you may be interested in joining the Toowoomba & Darling Downs Family HIstory Society which is excellent. You may also be interested in submitting your ancestors details for their new Pioneer Biographical Register which closes on 31 January 2011. http://www.tddfhs.org/

      Their blog is also very informative: http://tddfhs.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,13/ and includes indexes to the Darling Downs Gazettes.

      Hopefully this will give you some research to follow up. Good luck with the hunt.

      Pauleen

  2. I have much information on the Nebauer, Umscheid, Dennewald and Hohl families (all my ancestors) happy to send anything to anyone.
    I may be replicating what I have already sent but I am new to this and I don’t know if my comments were posted.
    Monica

    • Hi Monica,
      I’ve tried to send you a message via Genforum from a message you posted in 2001 on the O’Brien Family of Cooyal, NSW… but the e-mail bounced!
      If you get this I’m really busting to try & figure out an O’Brien mystery with you.
      Gina Francis in Lismore, NSW

      • hi Gina

        Not sure who you’re hoping to find…Monica O’Brien?? Can you pls let me know as I don’t think it’s me. Cheers Pauleen

    • I have traced my tree (Dennewald) back to Johann Jeremias Dennewald b. 1685
      but I am always interested in whatever other information I can get.
      My original ancestor, Jacob married Margaretta Hohl 15/8/1848 and arrived in Aust aboard the Catteaux Wattel 12/3/1855 with their two sons Jacob and Rudolph.
      I also have pics of them.
      I am 70 yoa and live in Randwick

      • Thanks for dropping by Warwick. It sounds like you’ve had a lot of success with your Dennewald line -there’d be lots of researchers with German ancestry who’ll be jealous, especially of the photos.

      • Hi Warwick, I am tracing the Skene family tree which takes me to Jacob and Margaretta Dennewald. I would be interested in any past info on these people and their son Jacob. if you can help

      • hi Linda, I have let warwick know you’ve made a connection with him and asked for permission to pass on his email. Cheers Pauleen

    • Hi Monica,
      The Dennewalds married into the Hogan family who came from the same area in Clare. My 1st cousin 2xremoved John Thomas Hogan married Lillian Dennewald in Wybong in 1900.

  3. Hello,
    I just found your very informative website after discovering my gggreat grandmother was born in Broadford County Clare c. 1839. She married Hugh Charles Munro in Melbourne on 6th August 1860. Her name on the marriage certificate is Ann Quinney – her parents are Michael Quinney, farmer and Catherine Flanagan. She could not write as an ‘x’ is her signature. The problem is her surname as spelling alters with each child born to the marriage – Quiney, Quine, Quincy, Quene, Cooney. I’m guessing that Quinney is the more correct as her husband registered the birth of the children. Unfortunately her death does not appear to have been registered, so I have very little to go on.
    Any suggestions would be very greatly received.
    Thank you very much for your great website and link to the County Clare Library.
    Kind regards,
    Chris

    • hi Chris, thanks for your interest. I’ll have a look at some records I have to see if something fits your ggg grandmother. She would have been born within 10 years of my Mary O’Brien. I’ll email you directly. Cheers Pauleen

    • hi Chris, Sorry about the delay as I’ve been away. I have had a look at my database with the baptisms from Broadford (which only start in 1844) and can find no record of the couple. I searched under Flanagan in the first instance as it got around the problem of her surname. I’m inclined to think the surname could be Cooney as there are at least some around with that name. I find that you have to try to pronounce the name with an Irish accent to see what it sounds like….not that I have an Irish accent. Do you have any info on her arrival, whether her parents were still alive then or not etc. I don’t suppose there’s any chance she arrived with a sibling as many did? I had the most luck with my O’Briens by (1) oral history and (2) getting details from her sister’s death certificate. Is there any chance her death might have involved an inquest or a hospital/asylum admission. Either of these might give you more info to go on. I will email directly too so you have my email. Good luck with the hunt. The Irish can certainly be elusive. Pauleen

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  7. Informative blog and thanks for the book recommendation. Can you tell me a little more about the assisted migration scheme from East Clare. My family are from Moynoe near Scarriff and nine of the ten children emigrated. Several of these children have the usual discrepancies with ages and birth years and an independent record may help clarify. I am also interested to understand more about the process and how unaccompanied young teenagers might leave.

    • My first response was to say that there wasn’t a specific scheme other than the NSW/Qld/Vic assisted immigration scheme.. depending on timeframes. The pre-Separation NSW records are very helpful. What time frame are you looking at? Having said all that, the priest in Broadford was “facilitating” many young Clare people to come to Australia in the early 1860s…long story best done via email so will get in touch.

      • I have been looking at 1870s and 1880s. Almost certainly there was a generation of travellers in early to mid 1800s but that’s another story altogether and likely to go untold given state of Irish records for that time.

  8. Guess what Pauleen? Just discovered my great great great grandfather died in the Tulla Workhouse. The rest of his family emigrated to Queensland in dribs and drabs.

    • I was going to say “excellent” but not really when your ancestor died in the workhouse. What was the timeframe? was it the Famine era or before/after? I’d guess one family member (or more) came first and then brought the rest of them. There are a few indexes at QSA that might be helpful depending where they came to in Qld.

  9. The photo at the beginning of your blog Shouts to me ! River Shannon and the townland of Ballybroughan. Can this be right?
    The family were Burke, Patrick and Bridget, and the story of the eviction, hasty departure, and life in Australia is told in “Not the Bushranger” by L M Burke. Published by Gangara Press, 1 Ocean View Drive, San Remo, Victoria 3925, Australia. A copy is available (I think ) in the Library in Ennis. Also maybe at the East Clare heritage Centre, Tuamgraney.
    L M Burke

    • Just to trick you Lorna, the images are rotational but I’m pretty sure which one you mean -water in front and patchwork fields behind. I believe this photo was taken overlooking Lough Derg near Killaloe -or so my notes tell me. However I chose it for my blog, not because of any specific connection to my families, but because it is such a typical Irish scene. Thanks for the tip off on the book about the Burke family. I’m assuming that it’s Ballybroughan, Sixmilebridge? I’m certainly interested in any of the emigrants from the eastern half of Clare so will look it out. Thanks again. Pauleen

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  11. Thanks Cass, for your invitation to County Clare emigrees. My interest is Martin Markham who came to Australia from Quin, above Clooney, County Clare, in 1860. Never been able to find any details on his parents John Joseph Markham or mother Mary (Sullivan) Markham, nor his sisters
    Anne and Mary, and fearful that they lie in a mass grave as victims of the “Diaspora”. John J.
    farmed 13 and half acres at “Toonagh” with his brother or father in law Patt Sullivan. Of course, interested in your German blogs, as Martin’s second wife (his first wife Elizabeth Phelan died in childbirth following the drowning of her youngest son just 2 months before) was Julia Bach whose family was from Neckerhausen, Germany.and came to Australia on the “Catteaux Wattel”. 1855, Christoph was a vinedresser who went to Dr. Alexander Park in Lewisbrook. The story gets sadder and sadder and is for another time. Thanks for all your great info and hope you enjoyed the Congress. Cheers Carol

    • Thanks for replying Carol…It’s great to hear from another East Clare emigrant’s descendant. You may be lucky -Quin is on the Family Search microfilm list I’ll email you with how to get there just in case you’re not familiar with it. Sounds like there are some sad stories in your family. I too have found quite a number of German-Irish Catholic marriages. Alexander Park appears regularly in the German immigration employers. Sadly I didn’t get to Congress this year Carol…Canberra in 2015 is my goal.

      • Re your comment about Mary O’Brien marrying in Ipswich. It is also possible that she married in the Northern Rivers area of NSW. I have a child baptised in ‘Ipswich’ at that time and it simply means that the Parish of Ipswich was the base of the priest who was on his rounds through the cedar camps at the time. The area was also covered by the Parish of Armidale and there are some interesting stories told by the records from the travels of the Anglican & Catholic ministers back then.

      • Thanks Anne…a good tip for anyone with “Ipswich” baptisms/marriages. Yes Fr McGinty and Co covered an awful lot of country on their horse-riding BDM ventures. A number of my Darling Downs baptisms were through Ipswich. However Mary and George were actually married in Ipswich where they resided for some time per both the register and the certificate. (Hence why we old-timers don’t rely on indexes as you know, but others seem not to).

  12. yes, I noticed an entry from Monica O’Brien & I need to contact her re O’Brien Family from Cooyal, NSW. Can you help at all?

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  14. My “Donoghue” family from the west County Clare immigrated between 1855-1862, through various means: as orphans (nearly adults) and nearby Counties via the Irish Catholic Church, and sponsorship from their siblings(/husbands) to NSW Australia.
    I appreciate you blogs :)
    GJ

    • hi GJ, Thanks for getting in touch. I was particularly intrigued by your reference to the Catholic Church….how did that work? Was it official or indirect? Were your orphans part of the Famine Orphans? I guess you’ve seen the Famine Orphan memorial website…if not leave a note & I’ll get back to you. Thanks for your support for my blogs
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  15. I’ve just read your blogs with interest and wonder if you have considered other names for the two who can’t be found on the immigration records. My 3x greatgrandmother was an O’Brien either Sarah or Mary. Her husband was a McMahon either Thomas or Michael. Daughter Margaret or Bridget married Patrick Ready (only known as Patrick but spelt surname 3 different ways) in Ballyea south of Ennis and emigrated to Moreton Bay on Argyle in 1852. They lived the rest of their lives around Ipswich. I remember there were 2 O’Brien sisters on records of the voyage and I wondered if they were related. One who came was Bridget age 21. I was told that the other did not come and a cousin I think came in her place so the record is not even for same person. 2 generations further down I have 2 of grandfather’s brothers with 2 sets of names as Irish mother baptized them with one set of names and Scottish father regd birth with another set of names. Luckily an uncle was able to explain my dilemma there with finding names on BMDs that did not fit in with what I knew from family. Grandfather married daughter of another Irish couple and her mother from West Clare also had the 2 different names alternating between Susannah and Johanna. Seems to be a Clare trait to use various names. In the next generation -my mothers – they only used 1 name that I’m aware of but only 1 the youngest of 6 went by the first name given at birth. There is also the possibility of incorrect transcription in indexes. I’ve recently noticed the son of Patrick and Bridget (Margaret) Ready is incorrectly called Norman on an online index but there is only the one family on the voyage and I had researched that immigration record from original shipping records in Sydney long before indexes were available online so wasn’t affected by that mistake.

    • Hi Carmel, Yes I’ve wondered if they’ve come under someone else’s name, which is certainly a possibility. I feel they may be related to an O’Brien family also from Ipswich, Winifred and Daniel O’Brien. Their adult children had a lot to do with my Mary O’Brien Kunkel’s family over the decades and my gut tells me there’s a connection. I just can’t get to the bottom of it, and I’ve been on it for decades (well before the internet came along). The Argyle entries got my attention a long time ago but eventually eliminated them as the right ones -can’t immediately recall why but there was a good reason. I had hopes of another pair on a ship to Tasmania but again that didn’t turn out right either. Weird about all your different names…do you suppose it may have been a clerk mis-hearing what they were told eg Mary/Sarah or Johannah or Susannah?

      Thanks so much for getting in touch Carmel. I’m going to reflect further on your comment to see if any more ideas come to me. Pauleen

  16. Hi there. I know you all seem to be trying to trace relatives that emigrated from Ireland to Australia, but mine came to South Africa. I have a James Carney born about 1834 from Broadford, County Clare and he came over on the “Tudor” with a Patrick and Catherine Carney (nee Shaughnessy). My great great grandmother was Bridget Carney born about 1843 who came over to Patrick in Feb 1861on the Coldstream II to Port Elizabeth, South Africa. I have looking everywhere but can’t seem to find them. All help will be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks Patty

    • Hi Patty, I’m more than happy to hear from Broadford families wherever they’ve ended up. You have quite a bit of info but I’m not sure whether you’re looking for more info on their births/marriages or their emigration. It’s interesting because both the Tudor and the Coldstream ring loud bells for me in terms of the Broadford emigrants to Australia. Can you please clarify what you’re looking for? Thanks for dropping by, I’m very happy to hear from you. Pauleen

  17. Thanks for getting back to me so promptly. I’m trying to find births or baptisms mainly for Bridget. They were all Roman Catholics as her marriage and all her children’s baptism were recorded in St Augustine’s Catholic Church in Port Elizabeth. On James Carney’s Death Notice it shows his parents as Michael and Mary Carney (nee McNaughton). I’m not sure if Patrick, James and Bridget are siblings or cousins. Other Carney’s that came over with Bridget were Edmond and John. I am convinced that they are all related because all these names are mentioned as witnesses at Bridget’s children’s baptisms.

    • hi Patty, the problem you have is that the church records for Catholics do not commonly go back to that era and certainly not for Broadford which only commence in 1844. On top of which the first couple of years the registers are tremendously difficult to read and close to illegible. I looked at them in detail as part of my project and have just checked them. I have no baptism for Bridget Carney. With James you’re in an even trickier situation as he’s born well before the surviving registers (as was my Mary O’Brien). I also checked my database for Tudor and Coldstream but no Carneys. It did occur to me that you might also find the name spelled in a different way eg Kearney, again no joy. You can order the film from the LDS church to a family history library of the church near you. Here are the details: Baptisms, January 1844-December 1880; and marriages, February 1844-November 1880. Family History Library BRITISH Film 979694 Item 3

      In terms of my database what I have are a couple of Carney marriages, mainly, which I’ll include in case they mean something to you.
      26 11 1859 John Carney Cragg Clare Judith Kinnealy Cragg (marr)
      12 7 1857 John Carney Kyle Clare Margt Madigan Kyle? (Marr)
      4 1844 Denis Carney Michael Carney Kileagy Judith Bonadan? (bapt)
      4 2 1845 Patt Carney Clare Nansy Kwan (Marr)
      3 1853 Margaret Carney Patk Carney Kilbane Anne Keevan Kilbane (bapt)
      16 6 1853 Pat Carney Kilbane Clare Bridt Darcy Kilbane? (marr)
      25 2 1859 Patk Carney P Newmarket Clare Mary Kenwick Woodfield (marr)
      8 7 1844 Ellen Carnighan John Carnighan Judy Mulwheeny (bapt)

      Have you looked at the Clare Library website for the Griffith Valuations etc? If not this is the link and it’s well worth having a major exploration. http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/griffiths/griffithc.htm

      There is also a Facebook page now for people with Clare ancestry -You may wish to put an enquiry out there to see if anything knows any info on the Carneys from Broadford -I wouldn’t pin my hopes on baptisms because of the timelines. Here’s the link https://www.facebook.com/groups/countyclare/

      • Hello, I’ve been researching Carnighan ancestors, and I noticed you listed an “Ellen and John Carnighan” in this post. I just wanted to confirm that these names were accurate and wondered if there were any more Carnighans from County Clare. Thanks

      • hi Patrick, thanks for visiting. I have no other info on Carnighans I’m afraid except the baptism of Ellen (note she was the daughter, not the wife). I suggest you follow the links I provided in that comment as you may have more luck on the Clare Library website or the Clare Facebook site. Happy researching. Pauleen

    • Hi Patty, check out the Carneys on the Tithe Applotments per Clare Library. There is a Michael Carney in Killokennedy which combines with the parish of Kilseily in the Broadford parish registers.

      • Indeed, that is always the problem..perhaps look into whatever oral history you’ve inherited. I wouldn’t put all your money on either spelling as in previous years, especially when literacy levels were variable, the spelling of surnames changed a lot, even among the clergy recording marriages/baptisms. So Kearney could well be an option. Don’t forget Broadford is in the Limerick Union and so perhaps they gravitated there. The Limerick workhouse records are online and might be worth a look…search my blog for it as I’ve posted previously.

  18. Thanks Pauleen, will look into that. On the Aided Immigration to the Cape, the name is spelt Kearney but on the Death Notices it’s spelt Carney and James son signed his DN as Michael Carney, so I presume it is Carney and not Kearney. Another thing I think that the family could of moved around. There is a John that came over with Bridget and opposite his name on the records it shows that he was from Limerick. So who knows! I just wish I could find something on them.

  19. My ggrandmother , Mary Hayes, was born in Broadford in 1837. She married Robert Taylor,( born near Doonass, Clare 1837) in Ballarat in 1856.This is oral family history, would love to know if any records confirm these birth dates. My grandfather, Michael O’Brien, came from Scarriff and arrived in Adelaide in 1857. His siblings,Mary, Cornelius ,Bridget ,Margaret, Martin and John also emigrated to Adelaide, as did his widowed mother, Bridget (in 1859). I would love to find any record of the death in Clare of her husband, Cornelius. My ggrandfather, Patrick Shelton, was born c 1845 (at Aharina near Limerick). So, you see, I have a great deal of East Clare blood!
    Gabrielle

    • The Scarriff registers, available through LDS Church, are too late to be of any use to you: https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/223427. Also Doonass & Trugh (Kiltantanlea) https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/229887 (again too late a time range)

      Burials are rarely covered in the Catholic parish registers and his death (assuming he was Catholic) is too early for civil registration.

      The Griffith Valuations are your best bet & the following come from the Clare Library site:
      O’Brien Cornelius Derrywillin Feakle Scarriff
      O’Brien Cornelius Knockalisheen Feakle Scarriff
      O’Brien Cornelius Magherabaun Feakle Scarriff

      You can also order in the GV microfilms via the LDS church to look at, and if you were sure which one was him you could see from the notations on it when he likely died as it the revisions books note when the land is transferred to the next owner. You can see the available microfilms here https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/135700

      It seems likely that he was still alive when they were assessed and that Cornelius died close-ish to 1859 when Bridget emigrated, but otherwise perhaps the children’s migration dates might help as well. Does her death certificate add information to what you know?

      You definitely do have lots of East Clare ancestry and I was interested to see how many went to Adelaide in this time frame.

      Another place which might be able to help you is the East Clare Heritage Group at http://eastclareheritage.com/.

      Hope some of this is helpful and thanks for getting in touch.

      Cheers

      Pauleen

    • Hi Gabrielle, Me again. Do you know the names of Mary Hayes’s parents. I have some baptisms recorded for Broadford but they’re only available after 1844. Pauleen

      • Hi Pauleen,
        Thanks for all your advice. Mary Hayes’s parents were Martin Hayes and Johannah Hickey. And Bridget O’Brien’s death certificate had very little info on it ( I find the South Australian certificates much less informative than those of other states). Thanks again,
        Gabrielle

      • I notice that in the Griffith Valuations for Broadford (parish Kiseily) there are two Martin Hayes listed, one in Drumsillagh (Sallybank) and one in Kyle townland. You may already know this. How annoying about the SA certificates _I haven’t any experience with them.

  20. Mine would probably be the Sallybank Martin, as that is where my ggrandmother always said (to her children) that she was born.

    • hi Gabrielle, If you’re interested it would be worth looking at the Griffith Valuation revision films to learn more about when Martin died and who took over the land, but you may have done that already. Cheers Pauleen

  21. Hello, Pauleen …

    I was so glad to find your blog that mentions Broadford in County Clare. :) I am currently researching my family history and was very disappointed to learn that the records for County Clare have not yet been digitized and made available online.

    I’m wondering if you might have come across any mention of my family during your own exploration of the Broadford records? According to our family members who came to America from Ireland, we are descended from the McMahon and McDonald families of Broadford.

    Michael McDonald m. Mary McMahon

    Their children were …

    Patrick McDonald b.1807
    Catherine McDonald b.1820 m. Michael Flanagan (he died in Ireland) Children: Patrick Flanagan b.1842, Mary Ann Flanagan b.1845
    Dennis McDonald b.uncertain
    James McDonald b.1832

    These birth dates are approximations.

    Patrick, Catherine, Dennis and James McDonald all arrived in the United States between 1848 and 1854.

    Catherine’s children, Patrick and Mary Ann Flanagan, arrived sometime during the 1850′s.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you so much,

    Kate

    • hi Kate, a point I make quite regularly is that there’s a great deal that’s out there, still undigitised. Unfortunately a lot of advertising suggests that it’s all there like fruit on the tree which isn’t the case. In fact Broadford’s parish records are available on microfilm via the LDS (Mormon) church and can be ordered online to be read at at family history centre near where you live, in all likelihood. You just search the familysearch website’s catalogue and then order the film. Unfortunately we are all subject to the constraint of what records still exist and in the case of Broadford, the parish registers only commence in 1844 and are quite difficult to read in the early years (blurred etc).

      My notes suggest that Mary Flanagan was baptised on 19 November 1844 to Michl Flanagan and Cath McDonell (sic). The witnesses were Cath Donnell and Patk Jordan. There may be another child Margaret born in 1847 to Michael and Catherine though the surname I have written for her is not McDonnell/McDonald and this was because I couldn’t decipher it properly.

      The births to Michael McDonald/McDonnell and Mary McMahon would be before the registers commence.

      I strongly suggest you order the microfilm in so you can peruse it yourself as it may reveal other facts about the family eg as witnesses to other baptisms. I have just had a quick look at my own notes. There are also some other possibilities of marriages eg Patrick McDonnell and Mary McMahon. That’s also a large, but necessarily impossible, gap between the ages of the four McDonalds you list.

      Pauleen

  22. YES!! You have found the right family, Pauleen. The reason that I am certain is because I had forgotten to include Catherine McDonald’s third child, Margaret, when I wrote to you last night. I know only that Margaret died in Ireland. I am very excited that you have been able to find Catherine’s family in your notes. Thank you so much for taking the time to check for me.

    There do appear to be some discrepancies in the range of ages between Patrick/Catherine/James/Dennis McDonald. We have never been certain of Dennis’ age, since it changed greatly from census to census. It seems unlikely, if not impossible, that there would be such a wide spread in birth years unless they had different mothers. There has also been some doubt as to whether their surname was McDonald or McDonnell while they lived in Ireland. In America, they consistently used McDonald. It is very interesting that you have found them recorded in Ireland as McDonnell’s. I’m wondering if those who recorded the parish records in Ireland might have been more precise than the enumerators who recorded names on the U.S. census forms. Our census records are often riddled with spelling errors and other discrepancies. I find myself continually comparing one record against another in order to verify accuracy.

    Patrick, Catherine, James and Dennis made new lives for themselves here in America, settling on a small island in Lake Michigan that was both beautiful and wild. The stories of their lives were dramatic, each with its own measure of success and heartbreak. I am looking forward to discovering more about them during the earlier chapters of their lives while they still lived in Ireland. I know very little about that time but have recently found a long forgotten clue about their past. I’m wondering if you have ever heard of an Englishman named Lord Wilson? I have found a record indicating that Patrick and Dennis worked on an estate that he owned, most likely during the 1830′s – 1840′s.

    Again, I want to thank you for responding to my message. I appreciate your time and excellent suggestions.

    And I’m so happy to meet another descendant of a Broadford family, Pauleen.

    Sincerely,

    Kate

    • hi Kate, I wouldn’t place too much faith in the Irish recorders being more exact as I’ve frequently found variations in spellings even by the same priest. However I think in Clare it’s much likelier that they were indeed McDonnell not McDonald (after all, more a Scottish name). Perhaps it was recorded McDonald on their arrival so they just stuck with it, or perhaps it was because it was less Irish, given the prejudice against the Irish immigrants.

      I don’t know of Lord Wilson but if the men worked on his estate I suggest you look at the Griffith Valuations on either the Clare Library site (see my web page list) or this one http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/. If you were really lucky there might be estate records in the National Library of Ireland for his estate.

      I was reading the parish registers again last night & they really are extremely difficult to document accurately due to blotting down one side or the other of pages etc etc. I think on further look that the second baptism I mentioned did have the mother’s name as McDonnell though it was initially difficult to read. The witnesses were Martin and Mary McMahon. It would probably still be worth while you ordering in the film and looking at it for your own assessment.

      Is there any possibility there’s a mistake with the names and that there was confusion over the McDonnell/McMahon parents’ names?

      Pauleen

    • Good morning Kate – I am a descendant of the Dennis McDonald you mention from Washington Island, WI…would love to share more info and learn more about what you have learned.

  23. Hi, Pauleen …

    The latest lead in my search for the McDonald/McDonnell family of Clare is an entry in the County Clare Tithe Appointment Books. The list of “Occupiers of Land in the Parish of Kilseily, 13th August 1827″ includes an entry for “McDonnell, Mich’l, Woodfield & Kiladerry” in Kilseily.

    The time is right. The name is right. But is the place right? Our family lore recalls only Broadford, so can this be the correct match? …

    And here is another interesting clue to compare with this discovery: the Clare County Library has posted a document online entitled “Census Search Forms, 1841 & 1851″. According to that document, a search of those census records was made for Mary Ann Flanagan, the other daughter of Catherine McDonald/McDonnell Flanagan. Two places were listed for the search: Broadford Town, Kilseily and Kilkishen Town, Clonlea. When I examine a map of the area, I can see that the location of “Woodfield & Kiladerry” lies right in between!

    It is also interesting that the census search for Mary Ann Flanagan in Broadford and Kilkishen was not successful; no records were ever found. Perhaps the reason that no records were found is because the wrong location was being searched.

    It appears that my next step should be to look for a census or parish record for Woodfield/Kiladerry. I know very little about parishes and towns in Ireland. Do you happen to know if Woodfield and Kiladerry are two separate towns and might each have kept its own records? If you have any ideas, I would appreciate hearing your suggestions.

    I am grateful to be living in an era when we are able to conduct research online. Thank you so much for all of your work, Pauleen, to transcribe documents and share your findings with the rest of us as we search for our families across oceans and centuries.

    This is an exciting journey!

    Kate

    • hi Kate, Killaderry and Woodfield are both townlands in the parish of Kilseily, for which the main town is Broadford and both townlands are within a kilometre or so of the town. You can read about townlands on the Clare Library website. The Tithe Applotments are a possibility but that’s all really…the inclusions are more limited than for the Griffith Valuations which is why the latter is much more useful to you than the TA IF your ancestor did not die before the assessments took place. You don’t really know when Michael McDonnell died nor indeed Michael Flanagan and either could have died throughout the Famine or later, or earlier, though you have a limitation on Flanagan because of the last child’s birth in 1847.

      I really would look at ordering in the film for the GV for Kilseily to see whether you can pin them down that way. For example the GV has a Catherine Flanagan at Killaderry (O’Brien) (a townland). This might well be your Catherine and would make her husband’s death between 1847 and 1852. As an example my own Michael O’Brien MAY be the one listed at Killaderry (O’Brien) as well as Ballykelly but I just don’t know…the only reason to think it’s possible is that one of his daughters settled there with her husband.

      It would also be worth a full exploration of their immigration dates because that too will give you a time frame to consider as well.

      There are only rare fragments surviving of the 1841/51 census. Although I couldn’t see the references you were mentioning, the names listed are those who applied for an Irish pension from 1908 (read the sidebar on that page of the Clare Library site). At the time of the applications people could submit their reference details and the old census records would be searched. Unfortunately they’re not longer in existence and these pension applications are mostly all that survives, with minor exceptions. My own 2xgreat grandmother’s sister is not listed even though I know she was still alive in Ireland at the time, was poor and was also alive in 1841/1851.

      In addition to ordering in the GV microfilms per my earlier responses, I’d suggest it would be worthwhile for you to buy or borrow a good reference book on researching Irish family history. It’s not impossible to do, and you are ahead of many knowing where they came from, but it seems that there are knowledge gaps that such a book might assist with.

      In terms of people citing place names, I’ve often referred to how we ourselves would state where we come from. For example, to you living in the States I might say I’m an Australian, to an Aussie I might say I live in the Northern Territory or that I was born in Queensland. I might mention the town where I was born, the suburb I grew up in (sort of the equivalent for the Irish of a townland). In their case they might add the nearest large or market town (eg Broadford), the parish to which they belong (eg Kilseily or Killaderry, both of which are tied to Broadford), the townland they came from, or perhaps a major estate they worked on. That all presupposes that they are being entirely honest because I’ve seen at least some where it suited them to give a slightly different response.

      So Killaderry and Woodfield both fit with Broadford BUT is that necessarily the correct selection? Any parish records for them (baptisms/marriages) would be included in the Kilseily records unless for some reason the family had ties to another parish, but even that’s less likely. The further dilemma is that with the early parish entries the priest does not note which townland the couple come from whereas later he does add this information for both parents and witnesses. Also you need to keep in mind that with your family the period you’re looking at is across the time of the Famine when the priests were incredibly busy looking after their parishioners, and the priest in Broadford, Fr John Burke was very assiduous in this regard.

      While I haven’t specifically addressed your family questions I hope this is helpful to you. I can only reiterate that not research can be done online although there’s much online that can be helpful. It is important to read around the topics, either by book or online, to know more about the circumstances and also what records might be available, their benefits and limitations.

      A further point, it is definitely worth looking at the American or even Canadian records (given your family’s location ), to see which of Catherine’s children emigrated with her. It’s unlikely, to my mind, that she’d have left such small children behind indefinitely though I have to admit it’s also not impossible.

      Cheers Pauleen

  24. Hello, Pauleen … Thank you again for all of your help. I have been very busy studying Irish history and old maps since we last wrote. I believe that I have found “Lord Wilson’s Estate” that was mentioned in a set of notes that I found. There is a place called Belvoir that was once occupied by David Wilson, Esq. It is located about 8 km. southwest of Broadford, even
    less as the crow flies. I have sent you a message through facebook that was delivered to your “Other” folder and have also joined the County Clare facebook group. I’ll look forward to seeing you there!

    Sincerely,

    Kate (a/k/a Kathi)

    • hi Kate/Kathi, glad you’re having some success with your research. Yes Belvoir rings bells with me. Do try the Nat Lib of IRL to see if they have anything on the estate in their manuscripts catalogue. I can’t see the message you sent on FB -will have to look again. Maybe easier to connect via Clare group? Cheers Pauleen

  25. Hello, I’m afraid I don’t have a whole lot of details to go on so I’m kinda clutching at straws but desperate to get more info on my relative/s from Co Clare. Unlike the majority, my distant relative emigrated from Ireland to the Cape, South Africa. Her married name was Mary Cooney (don’t know her maiden name) and was born in 1802 and died 31/10/1903. She also had a daughter called Mary born 1853 who married a Thomas Healy. Like I said not too much to go on and disappointing that I can only find emigration records to Australia and US, so any info whatsoever would be greatly appreciated!

    • hi Brendon, I know from naught about emigration to South Africa so I can’t help I’m afraid. Did they have any details on her death certificate -I have seen a SA version and it was quite full of details so that might help. Perhaps she was taken there as a servant with someone else (unless she herself was well off)? In which case you’d be looking for their names in a newspaper report as she may not even be listed. Have you visited or checked websites for any major reference library or archive in South Africa? They’d be the best to help you. There is also a County Clare Facebook page for those with Clare ancestry. You just might find someone on there who’s had experience with SA. The link to FB is https://www.facebook.com/groups/countyclare/…just ask to join and they’ll welcome you with open arms. Also do look at the Clare Library website but you’ll really don’t know much to go on when you don’t even know her maiden name which you will get nowhere without. I’d definitely start with her marriage certificate and death certificate, especially if both are in South Africa. She certainly lived to a good age.

      • Hi Brendon I live in South Africa and my ancestors also came over with the Aided Immigration to the Cape in 1861. Do you perhaps know where she settled when she she got here? My Kearney’s settled in Port Elizabeth and I managed to get quite a bit of information from the Catholic Church there. Please Email me pattym@frontlineum.co.za and maybe I could be of some help. Regards Patty

        Sent from my iPad

      • Hi Pauline

        I’m going through some genealogy websites from South Africa and have found a gravestone for Mary Cooney. Do you perhaps have an email address for Brendon. I’m sure he would be very excited.

        Kind regards

        Patty (I am the one that was looking for the Kearney/Carney family from Broadford who also came to South Africa)

      • Hi Pauline, me again

        I have found a record of her death. Maiden name was O’Callaghan. Please forward my email onto him

        From: Patty Myers [mailto:pattym@frontlineum.co.za] Sent: 23 April 2013 12:48 PM To: ‘Family history across the seas’ Subject: RE: [New comment] Broadford and East Clare emigrants to Australia

        Hi Pauline

        I’m going through some genealogy websites from South Africa and have found a gravestone for Mary Cooney. Do you perhaps have an email address for Brendon. I’m sure he would be very excited.

        Kind regards

        Patty (I am the one that was looking for the Kearney/Carney family from Broadford who also came to South Africa)

      • hi Patty, Sorry I had forgotten for the moment about your South African Irish. I’m glad you can help Brendan and will send your email on to him as requested, given he may not notice the comments. Thanks!! Pauleen

    • Hi Brendon
      I have found a death record for Mary Cooney. Her maiden name was O’Callaghan. I have also found a headstone for her and her children. They were all buried in the South End Cemetery in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. No mention of a husbands name though.

  26. Hi Pauleen
    Ive sent you a message on FB but then i found this blog and i just had to put a message up.

    I am living in Co Clare. I am actually from a village 4 miles from Broadford called O’Callaghans Mills!
    Anyway…My O’Brien search starts with Michael O’Brien who married Catherine(Kate)Reddan on the 24th Feb 1857 in Scarriff. They lived in Caherhurley Bodyke and had 6 Children

    Mary 15/12/1857 – Went to Australia
    John 31/01/1860 – who is my ggGrandfather
    Matthew 22/03/1862 – Went to Australia
    Margaret 21/04/1864 – ?
    Catherine(kate) 05/01/1868 – sadly passed away 25/02/1897
    Ellen 27/06/1872 – ?

    I have only just started searching the family tree and i really have no idea how to start searching for info on Matt or Mary…Matt either came home or sent money home and had the headstone on the family grave erected… (in the church grounds where the East Clare Heritage building is actually)… as it says Erected by Matthew O’Brien of Perth West Australia in loving memory of his parents… if you can help or if anyone you have met along your way could help id be thrilled..
    Ive seen a photo of Matt and Mary they sent home to John letting him know they were well and also a photo of Matt with 2 sons i think…so their def should be a branch growing away down under!!!

    I would also love to know Michaels brothers and sisters names..Parents if possible and the same for Kate Reddan..

    Records are very hard to come by!! we always thought Michael who came from Ballyvannon married into the Reddan farm in Caherhurley so i just went to Bodyke to search the church records but no sign of the marriage there only their list of children but i found the marriage in Scarriff. And there was no info on any other Reddan’s i was told…There is a book written by Gerard Madden ‘A History of Tuamgraney & Scarriff – Since Earliest Times’ published in 2000 which i must get. i have only just heard that two Reddan sisters married two O’Brien brothers and that the Reddan’s moved to Scarriff from Limerick the father opened up a “Mill” of some sort i still have to get over to Tuamgraney to check this out.

    I have made contact with Barbara Clare O’Brien (Victoria) who by the way is def connected to that lady Gabrielle Finn who wrote you here on the 9th March 2013….these two ladies are connected to me… siblings of Michael O’Brien…i know the O’Briens still living in Ballyvannon so if anyone needs help contacting them!!!!

    Fingers crossed you can help me fill in the blanks…
    Kindest Regards
    Anne Marie O’Brien

    • hi Anne Marie

      Good to hear from you -I know where O’Callaghan’s Mills is. Frustratingly our families are not related despite the similarity of the names. I had been in touch with Barbara previously but remiss in not writing for somme time.

      I will reply further via email.

      Pauleen

    • Hi Anne Marie or Pauleen, I am researching the McGennis family of Iragh near O’Callaghan Mills and from Feakle, over the past 25 years. Related families are Noonan, Tuohy and Lynch. I have been to OCM and visited McGuinness’ still in Feakle. If I left my email, I would love to hear from anyone researching OCM related families – claremcg@netspeed.com.au
      Clare McGuiness

      • hi Clare, I will pass on your message to Anne Marie. You might be interested in my new blog called “East Clare Ancestors” at http://eastclareoz.wordpress.com/. It will include random information I come across on my “travels”. I’d also welcome guest posts by people who want to share a story about their ancestors from East Clare, where they went and what happened to them.

  27. HI Pauleen,

    Just to throw my two bobs worth in, Perhaps one of your followers can shed some light on my question if my ancestors are no related to yours.My question is where in Clare did my 2cnd great grandfather come from and who were his parents? And how did he come to be sponsored by Henry Anstey

    What I have is:
    Patrick O’Brien arrived on the Panama into Hobart on the 27 April 1853 he arrived with his wife Mary Mackey and Patricks sister’s children Mary 13 and Bridget 11, all RC from County Clare.They were sponsored by Henry Anstey of Anstey Barton..

    All above is substantiated. Unsubstantiated is a place of birth being New Quay.

    Any light would be appreciated

    Thanks Justin

    • Hi Justin, after six weeks or so offline my light is also on dimmer ;-) Have you checked the Immigration Deposit Journals available at most state libraries and also family history societies. I may have them on my database but will look in the next day or so. Let’s hope it brings some illumination :-)

      • Hi Pauline and all you other East Clare researchers
        I am descended from several families from that area: Millane Markham, O’Neil, Flynn/O’Flynn, Malone, Maloney, amongst others. I realise that, apart from Markham, these are not amongst those names you have been discussing. however, they are the ones I’m interested in.
        Markham is of particular interest: John Markham, born 1835 in East Clare, emigrated to Australia around 1860 and married Mary O’Neil, also born in Clare 1843, in Melbourne in 1863. I can’t definitively fine their arrival in the colony.

        I have photos of both John and Mary. John falls off the record around 1895 but I have Mary’s death cert, 1913.

        Anyone interested in this line is welcome to get in touch.

      • hi Brian, will let you know if anyone is in touch about this. Want to check on a Sydney Markham. Thanks for commenting and visiting.

  28. Hi Pauline and Ann Marie. Just discovered your blog and read it from start to finish. I too have ancestors (Catherine Quinlavin) from O’Callaghansmills who came to Australia in the 1870s. Also several other (including Mary Grimes a 20 year old bounty immigrant from Scarriff who arrived around 1840 into Sydney). I wanted to post this initial note before getting my data together to post a more detailed comment. I visited East Clare, including Tuamgraney, during October so it is exciting to find this blog site with so many further ideas and contacts. Best Wishes Richard.

    • hi Richard, great to hear from you! I’ll bet you had a great time in East Clare exploring Tuamgraney and O’C Mills…it’s a lovely area. I would love to hear further from you about Catherine and Mary and to hear their story. Look forward to it! Pauleen

    • Hi Richard gonna jump on the lovely Pauleen’s blog again…
      Thanks for the message i only just came on it .
      There are still Quinlavins living in O C Mills did you happen to get in contact with any of them? A great site on Face Book is COUNTY CLARE IRELAND GENEALOGY and IRELAND http://www.irelandxo.com could help you too.
      Pauleen is a great mine of info too she’s been at this digging around game a while.and im sure she wont mind giving you any help <3 :)
      Best of luck… Anne Marie

  29. 1860 Stanleys from county Clare came to South Australia to farm land in the mid north Wandearah and called the property ‘Lauriston’ after my grandfather Laurence Stanley

  30. Hi Pauleen,
    A bit of serendipity at play here. I was following up on your blog post for Congress 2015 (I am managing the web content for Congress), when I saw you have an interest in Broadford, Clare. My McMahon family are from Tulla. My ggreat aunt Mary McMahon (b. 1825 Glendree, Tulla, daughter of Michael McMahon and Catherine Bowles) married James Bourke (b. 1818 Barbro (?), Clare).
    James was the son of Edmond Bourke and Bridget Vaughan. I believe that James was first married to Maria Redden. James and Maria had two sons Edmond (1842) and John (1845, Broadford, Clare). Maria died sometime before James, Mary and the two boys immigrated to Australia aboard the Emperor in June 1851. James subsequently sponsored the immigration of most of Mary’s large family between 1853 and 1856.
    The Bourke family settled at Binalong in NSW. John Bourke became a well know figure in nearby Harden-Murrumburrah. Serving as Mayor, JP, coroner, auctioneer and butcher at various times. I know very little about the Bourkes before they immigrated so would be interested to know if you have stumbled across this family at all.
    Regards, Leanne.
    PS. See you Canberra in 2015!

    • hi Leanne, Very pleased to hear from you. I am interested in the Bourke family as they came from the East Clare area….I have a new blog called East Clare emigrants http://eastclareoz.wordpress.com/. I didn’t pick them up on the Emperor because of the ambiguity of their place of origin. I’ve also checked the baptisms for Broadford and can’t find a trace of John there…perhaps he was baptised elsewhere (Tulla?)…the parish records are on microfilm with LDS though I can’t recall when they start. With Reddan/Redden in my family it has an added interest for me. Who knows, they may be related? I had a browse on Clare trying to find out more about the family but only found “county Clare”….frustrating! I notice Edmond appears to have changed his name to Edward as well. Sounds like we’ll have things to chat about in Canberra. Pauleen

  31. Thank you for the invite.Have often read the blogs and have decided to reply. My great grandmother Bridget Hayes was born in Cloonyconry Beg shortly before 1844.Her parents were Patrick Hayes & Bridget Ryan and her siblings were Margaret, Mary, John(baptised in Broadford 29.3.1845),Catherine(23.11.1846),Winifred(13.6.1848),Tom(4.5.1850),Pat(4.3.1852),Rodger(11.5.1854),Anne(30.5.1856),Honora&Ellen(17.3.1858)and Jeremiah(11.2.1860).Have located marriage and death certificates for Bridget,Margaret,Mary,Catherine,Winifred and Jeremiah in Australia.Have located immigration records for Catherine & Winifred In NSW.However I have no idea how to locate a certain immigration record for Bridget.She was a sponsor for a baptism in Broadford on the 17th March 1858 and a witness for a wedding in Cranbourne Victoria on the 23rd June 1867.I am interested to know of any emigration schemes that existed in that part of County Clare during that period. Regards Terry

    • Hi Terry, thanks for getting in touch. Sorry about the delayed response but I’m caught up with other things right now. can I get back to you in a few weeks when the dust settles? pauleen

  32. Hi Pauleen (and everyone else interested in former Broadford families)

    Where to start? My husband’s family (McDonnell’s) are a former (and current) Broadford family where branches of the family have over the years immigrated to Australia, England, Canada and USA with current family in numerous different countries! In addition, family names which are associated with the McDonnell’s include Catherine Taylor (1725 – 1797); Catherine Purcell whose mother was Mary Redden (1812 – 1904); Nora Doyle (?-?); plus Vaughan, Kelly, Quinlivan, Green and Taylor. Now most of the names mentioned are from in or around Broadford although I am struggling with Ellen Johnstone daughter of John Johnstone and Ellen Centrell and John’s parents were John Johnstone and Elizabeth Hartney (I think proof very thin on this). This Ellen Johnstone is my husbands Great Grandmother who married Dr Patrick McDonnell in Clonlara on July 4th 1877. Her father was described as deceased and a gentleman but was alive two years earlier on her sisters marriage certificate.

    With regard to the Australian branch of the family George McDonnell (1791 – 1872) had two wives. His first wife was Anne Scanlan and we believe this family was made up of 4 children one of which was George McDonnell (1837 – 1898) who married Mary Ryan (her mother was a Burke). George took his family to Australia (Sydney) and there is still family in Australia that I have been in touch with. My husband’s branch of the family is from George’s 2nd wife Catherine Purcell.

    We know that some of the family went to the USA – Dr Willy (William) McDonnell married Susan Quinlivan and they had 3 children George, Susan and Kathleen. George stayed in Ireland, married but had no children; Susan and Kathleen went to the USA. Susan married a Harte and we do not know if Kathleen married although the general concensus is she didn’t. We believe Susan’s family are in California.

    My husband’s 2 aunts and his mother went to Australia to school when they were about 12 we think. Aunty Nell stayed on, became a Nun taught school and stayed in Adelaide for the rest of her life while my husband’s mom and the other aunt came back to England.

    Lots more info, but will leave that for those who express further interest. I have a family tree website which I can give access to should you think you are connected – let me know. If anyone has further info on the Johnston(e) family connection I will be forever in your debt!!

    • Great to hear from you Linda. Sorry to be so long getting back to you but being away, then jetlagged, has set me behind. I will definitely be in touch via email as well….there’s so much content here in your comment. Will keep an eye out for those Johnston(e) family members. The Broadford families scattered far and wide…once they started out they just kept going till they found where suited them I think. I’m interested in your Reddan family as my 3xgreat grandmother was Catherine Reddan. Are your Vaughans the same lot from whom the Bishop of Killaloe came from?

      • Hi Pauleen

        I don’t have a Catherine Reddan in the names I have in my family tree but my information on the Reddan’s is incomplete and I am missing some first names, so I would need more info to be able to tell if my Reddan’s are connected to yours. With regard to the Vaughan’s, – I don’t know as again I do not have much beyond the names of the Vaughan children (my husband’s great aunts children) and one of his uncles married a Vaughan but they are not the same Vaughan family as the previous ones I have mentioned. If you send me your email address, I can add you to my family tree on the web and then you can see for yourself what I have, may make more sense than this rambling!

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